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Passing “It” On: Part 1

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I recently taught an Instructor 1 class and one of the things that I really like to make a point to emphasize is that we need to  pay attention to those firefighters and officer who are “salty” and who have been around a while.

We know that we have to attend classes and that we must get our noses in the trade journals and worth while web sites, but do we really listen when our more senior members are “telling stories?”  If not, we really need to start paying attention.

As a disclaimer, not all senior members will share or they just have never been engaged in the fire service. But, even some of those guys have something to offer even if they don’t realize it.  Each story has a lesson and we need to recognize this and absorb all we can while they are here.

Okay, so where I am going with this?  A few days after finishing this class, we were doing the dinner dishes and the discussion came up from a couple of the younger guys about fires and training.  Some how the conversation turned to commercial buildings, more specifically strip malls and fast food restaurants.

Out of curiosity I asked one of them what the first thing they would do if they responded to one of these buildings with a slight haze, odor of smoke or even an alarm sounding?  His first response was to go to the electric panel.

Well, as most of you may know where I am going with this, we advised him that he was wrong.  He had never been taught to take a pike pole and lift a ceiling tile as soon as you walk in the door.  This is critical information and I was shocked that his captain had  not covered this at some point.  Granted, he spends a large majority of his time on an LSV, but this is something he should have known.

What we did was have a very informative training lesson while doing dishes. I am pretty sure this will stick with him for the rest of his career as we discussed some case studies on this type of fire.  It didn’t take a lot of class preparation or Powerpoint slides, just an eager firefighter and some older ones willing to share.

Talk fire and rescue.  This has to be a normal activity in the fire house.  If we can instill this in the newer generation they will pass it on also.  We owe it to them to give them every little nugget of information that we can, sometimes whether they want it or not.

What was passed on to you by someone that you worked or trained with? How did it change what you did in the fire service? Let us know your story and keep on fighting the good fight.

Stay safe and train hard.

Kitchen Table Tactics 01/05/10

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Look familliar? Let's discuss!

Look familiar? Let's discuss!

This is a building that most of us have in our jurisdictions somewhere. Let’s discuss and debate.

  • What can we determine by just pulling up to the building about the occupancy type?
  • From this side, where is the hallway and possible stairs location?
  • What can we say about the fire and any extension?
  • Where do we need to place the primary concern for life safety?
  • Where are you going to place your first attack lines and additional lines after that?
  • Are there any other concerns or issues we need to think about that haven’t been asked here?

Have fun and get your crew involved.  Post your comments so everyone can see all of the great ideas out there.  As always, stay safe and be careful.

Hazards of Commercial Buildings

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How many of these do you have in your response area?

How many of these do you have in your response area?

No doubt that we all have a building like this in our jurisdiction, if not several.

In many cases these buildings have been several different kinds of business and altered some fashion or another.

These are not simple fires, especially if there are part of a main street block or strip mall type of set up.

We can see some pretty thick smoke from the attic vent on the front. I see a fan set up and can’t tell if it is running, but at this point in the fire, should it be?

  • What are some challenges we could encounter at this building especially with the roof?
  • What kind of construction are we dealing with?
  • Is the line size and placement appropriate?

Post your comments and give your thoughts. Happy New Year, stay safe.