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Training for VES

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How many of you do VES?

How many of you do VES?

How many of you and your organizations routinely perform Vent, Enter and Search Operations?

When discussing this tactic in some circles there is great debate.  In fact, I have heard outright intolerance for VES.

It boils down to training and experience.  Believe it or not, I have had firefighters actually have to ask what the acronym meant.  Obviously, they don’t perform it.

It certainly has it’s place and is something that can be incorporated into the Outside Vent position.  Especially in jurisdictions that don’t have dedicated Engines and Trucks, this position is even more critical.  In these areas, one fire you may be performing engine company operations while the same day at a different fire you may be the truck company based on the order of your arrival.

I am curious what your policies are and what your training is for this position?

How does your department run in terms of companies and assignments?

Share what you do and how you operate so that we can all learn new ideas and methods to keep us safe.

Take care and train hard and smart.

Posted by dc802 on April 8, 2010 • Filed under: RIT, VES, fire-rescue-topics, firefighting-operations, training-development, training-fire-rescue-topics, vent, ventilation • Tagged: , , , ,

False Exterior Walls

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Do you see anything different here?

Do you see anything different here?

I  was out of town most of this past week for class and noticed this building on the first morning I drove in.

The first morning they had only installed the wall to the “r” in Performing.  The second day I realized that I needed to snap a picture of this to share.

This false wall is about four stories tall and covers the entire length of the building.

What challenges do you see?

What challenges do you see?

As you can see, this wall definately would challenge any rescue efforts were there victims in the windows.

Not only will it hamper rescue efforts, performing ventilation or suppression from this side of the building would be challenging at best.

The frame of the false wall is set off of the building wall at a distance of approximately two feet.  That is just a guess, but operating ground ladders here is almost impossible.

Interior crews would need to know that this side is limited access and egress because of the wall.   It will certainly challenge our strategies and tactics should an incident happen here.

This is one good example of why you need to get out and see your area.  Know what’s going on and get involved.  As a crew you can preplan this building by just parking out front, take a picture or two and go back and have a discussion about how you would operate at this building.

Stay safe and be careful.

Posted by dc802 on April 3, 2010 • Filed under: buildling construction, command-leadership, exits, fire codes, fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, forceable entry, high rise, situational awareness, ventilation • Tagged: , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Addresses on Inspections

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This is a C-store and filling station with address numbers of 12785.

This is a C-store and filling station with address numbers of 12785.

I was doing inspections the other day and this address was on the list.  Not very exciting and pretty standard stuff.

It is a small convenience store with gas pumps out front.  I found an exit sign with emergency lights dangling from the ceiling and the battery back-up was not working.  Like I said, nothing to note that was out of the ordinary.

Then I look at my list and see the same numerics on another inspection form with a different business name.  This is what I find…..

Same address as the filling station. Same owner.

Same address as the filling station. Same owner.

This building is directly behind the filling station in the above picture.  Both are labeled on the front of both buildings with the identical address.

Now this building was locked and I was not able to get in, but, this view is at the same elevation as the filling station, but behind it the elevation changes so that it is two stories on the back side.

This building houses offices on the main level and storage on the lower level.

Okay, the point is this, pay attention to your inspections.  This is the kind of information you need to pass on.  This is a situation that could turn ugly real quick.

Imagine getting dispatched to this address and finding that the filling station is closed.  Nobody around and the address is prominently displayed on the store.  False call, right?

Well, if we don’t know about that building behind it, even though we see it, we may not associate it with the call because how often are two buildings addressed the same?

Just be aware and alert.  Take these inspections seriously and be thorough.  Don’t be the one says, “Oops.”

Take care and be careful.

Posted by dc802 on March 26, 2010 • Filed under: fire codes, fire-prevention-education, inspections • Tagged: , , , , ,

More Company Discussions:You Are the Boss!

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Deploy your people. You are the big boss on this one, what next?

Deploy your people. You are the big boss on this one, what next?

You are the incident commander on this fire.  You can deploy who ever you want where ever you want.

I am allowing for your normal response of resources. No cheating!

Don’t worry about what is going on with the personnel in the picture; pretend they are not there.

Explain your size-up and the building characteristics.

Deploy your resources accordingly through what ever a first alarm will bring you. If you want to expand your alarms, hey, have at it.  Just let us know.

Sit down with your crews and work this out.

This fire came in as a house fire, unknown victims, called in by the neighbors.

Have fun with it, pass it on, and be safe.

Posted by dc802 on March 17, 2010 • Filed under: administration-leadership, buildling construction, command-leadership, fire-rescue-topics, firefighting-operations, fires, training-fire-rescue-topics • Tagged: , , , , , ,

Company Discussions: Redeployment?

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What would you do at this point?

What would you do at this point?

There is a lot already taking place here.  A hose crew is at the door or inside.  A guy is taking out a window or something to that effect on the D side.  And someone is on a ladder.

There is some nasty smoke pushing out of this structure.  It definitely is under pressure.

Time is running out for keeping this in check and an interior attack.  We’ve all been here and we know how this can go.

At this point in the fire, what ventilation tactic would you use and why?

If you need to, redirect these crews and put them where you think they will make the most progress and explain your actions.

Share with your crew and post your discussion points.  We always get great feedback and we know you have some goo ideas, so, let’s hear them.

Stay safe and be careful.  Get yourself healthy and stay healthy.

Posted by dc802 on March 7, 2010 • Filed under: command-leadership, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, fires, situational awareness, vent, ventilation • Tagged: , , , , ,

Company Discussion: Building Characteristics

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What characteristics could you expect with this building?

What characteristics could you expect with this building?

Just about every jurisdiction in the country has a building like this one.

These are popular in the older downtown areas, especially in smaller towns and main streets.

Some of you may have fought a fire or two in a building similar to this one or done an inspection at one.

Based on your past experiences and this picture, what are some concerns you may have about this building?

How will those concerns determine your strategies and tactics?

What size lines and what conditions will you be looking for inside?

List your responses and share your experiences and thoughts.

Posted by dc802 on March 3, 2010 • Filed under: buildling construction, fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, situational awareness, training-fire-rescue-topics • Tagged: , , , , ,

Cool Tool Ideas

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I good way to keep two tools together. Picture from Brotherhood Instructors

I good way to keep two tools together. Picture from Brotherhood Instructors

Here is a cool way to get two tools to stay together.  Firefighters can get real creative when they want to.

This is a good example of getting out of the chair and doing something to help the fire service.

Using multiple tools can make forcing entry much easier and more effective, so it is beneficial to have more than one tool.

The last post was about bringing tools, so I thought this was appropriate.  To see some other tool drills and ideas, click the picture for Brotherhood Instructors site.

Posted by dc802 on February 24, 2010 • Filed under: enter, fire-rescue-topics, firefighting-operations, forceable entry, search, training-fire-rescue-topics, vent • Tagged: , , , ,

Back to Basics Part 1: Ladders

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Back to Basics Part 1: Ladders

Back to Basics Part 1: Ladders

I recently did a class and we got to talking about a scenario with a second floor.

To my surprise, throwing a ladder to the second floor windows was not a top priority of tactical considerations.

In addition, most could not explain how to raise a ladder properly on their own. I can tell you that I was taken back.  So, I gave each officer an assignment, drill on ladders.

In my part of the world we may have to be a truck company at one call and then turn around and be an engine company at the next.  The next call we may be a squad. We just don’t have the resources that the large metro departments have to run engine companies and truck companies separate.

So, it is incumbent upon us to know all of the jobs.  As an engine company, we must be able to properly raise and place ground ladders.  It might be one of the first things you need to do if you have multiple victims hanging on balconies being threatened.   Not to forget that you may be second in and your first in is upstairs and may need a secondary means of egress?

Whatever the circumstances, ground ladders are important and vital. Drill with them and make them a tool that is expected to be used.

Remember, train hard and stay safe.

Posted by dc802 on February 17, 2010 • Filed under: fire-rescue-topics, firefighting-operations, rescues, training-fire-rescue-topics • Tagged: , , , , , ,

Company Training

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Make sure you know your apparatus.
Make sure you know your apparatus.

 

Here is a quick drill that you can use when the weather is bad outside or just to change things up a bit.

Number each compartment how ever you choose. You can use stick-it notes or flash cards or whatever.

Make a list of the items inside each compartment on a separate piece of paper.

(Just a note, the officer should be doing this without the crew).

Now, get your crew together and put all of the equipment labels in a bowl or box or hat or whatever you choose.  A fire helmet is easy to come by, so use that.

Have each person draw and write down on a pad of paper where he or she thinks the equipment is located.  When each person has finished, take them out to see how they did. 

Let the winner pick what your having for dinner or something like that.  Make it fun and don’t make it a punitive thing.  If you want, you could do it once a month and keep a running score.  I bet you have these guys/gals checking the truck more frequently and becoming more familiar with their equipment.

Stay safe and be careful.  Train hard and pass on what you learn.

Posted by dc802 on February 11, 2010 • Filed under: command-leadership, training-development, training-fire-rescue-topics, vehicle-operations-apparatus • Tagged: , ,

Making I-joists More Dangerous

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Like they aren't dangerous enough?
Like they aren’t dangerous enough?

This is a look at an altered and inappropriately installed engineered i-joist.  This happens a lot when pieces don’t fit or changes are made to the original design.

This is a weak spot in this floor  and will sag.  It will fail much faster if contacted with fire.

I know many don’t do residential inspections, but, if you do, this is something to watch for.  In addition, just understand that this type of work is out there.

Be careful and be aware.  Stay safe.

Posted by dc802 on February 10, 2010 • Filed under: buildling construction, engineered lumber, firefighter-safety-health, i joists, inspections • Tagged: , , ,

Company Discussion: Vacant Building

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Vacant or not vacant: To go or not to go?

Vacant or not vacant: To go or not to go?

Recent discussions about vacant buildings and how we should handle them led me to post this scenario.

I have my own opinion on vacant buildings which I will post later.  But, the discussion can get heated, depending on who you are talking with.

It seems most chiefs are of the opinion that vacant buildings are write-offs and company officers and firefighters want to aggressively attack these buildings and perform search and rescue if conditions permit.

Without further delay, let’s move on to the scenario.

You have arrived on the scene of this fire and it has been reported vacant.  It is winter and cold outside.  It is just outside of town, about 2 minutes from the city limits.

There are no hydrants but you have adequate personnel and apparatus to begin operations with approximately 4000 gallons on the initial response.

What are your initial actions and how do you approach a vacant house?  Why do you what you choose and what conditions were considered?

Remember, everyone has an opinion and we can all learn valuable lessons from everyone.  Also, this was an actual fire I was on.  So, I can fill you in on how we did in a few days.

Let’s hear it all and stay safe.

Posted by dc802 on February 5, 2010 • Filed under: command-leadership, fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, fires, search, situational awareness, vacant building fires • Tagged: , , , , , ,

More Than Just an Electrical Problem

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There are two issues with this picture that we need to address.

There are two issues with this picture that we need to address.

In this picture you can see the electrical service and that it is not appropriate.  In the dark or in heavy smoke, this could cause a real bad situation.  Not to mention it could have started the fire.

But, as I looked at this picture, I noticed something else that we need to think about.  Can you see it?  I have no doubt you have noticed it.

The basement doors are boarded up.  We mentioned this in an earlier post about boarded up windows.  This is no different.  Trapped or lost firefighters trying to find a way out may miss this door because it is boarded up.

There isn’t a whole lot we can do about it except to do our 360 and use good situational awareness.  Doing that 360 will tell us a great deal and could save our lives.

Just stay aware and alert.  Take the extra time to do your 360, it makes a difference and as an officer it is a must to keep your people safe.

Posted by dc802 on January 28, 2010 • Filed under: Uncategorized • Tagged: , , , , , ,

Company Discussion

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How do you attack this fire?
How do you attack this fire?

 

This is fairly good sized single-family home. Fire has vented at the ridge, at least appears as such.

We have not confirmed that everyone is out in this late night fire.

There is a basement and most of the bedrooms are on the upper floors. Those are not fake dormers.

How do you procede and what are your main concerns and why?

What is your size up and as the first officer, what is your first action?

Get your company together and hammer this one out.

Stay safe and train hard.

Posted by dc802 on January 27, 2010 • Filed under: administration-leadership, command-leadership, fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, training-fire-rescue-topics • Tagged: , , , , , ,

Row Houses

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Multiple exposure fire.

Multiple exposure fire.

This is a great scenario for us to look at. It has a great deal that needs to be addressed.

Now, I understand that not every jurisdiction has this type of occupancy, but let’s use our imaginations.

We can gather  a pretty good deal of information just from the picture.

Now, let’s go to work.  I’m not going to ask specific questions of what you would do, you all have a pretty good idea of what we are looking for.  List your tactical considerations and how your going to use your crews.

Since it is Sunday, I am going to give you all the resources you need.

Get started and share you knowledge.

Stay safe and train hard.

Posted by dc802 on January 24, 2010 • Filed under: command-leadership, fire-rescue-topics, firefighting-operations, fires, training-development, ventilation • Tagged: , , , , , , ,

Vent, Enter and Search

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Is this a situation that VES would be deployed?

Is this a situation that VES would be deployed?

This building looks to be a very large residential home, or more likely a mutli-family dwelling.

It appears that the majority of fire is on the second floor.

It is night time and the chance that it is occupied is good.

This could be a good time to use interior crews to start an aggressive search with a hose line since we really can’t see any fire.

At the same time, we can have some outside vent guys laddering these windows and performing vent, enter, search tactics since the building appears to be large.

Now, this is somewhat controversial in some parts, like mine, but I think it is an effective tactic.  The key here is to have adequately trained personnel who have experience and can make good decisions in the risk vs. benefit area.

Additionally, there needs to be coordination with the interior crew. And, hey, if you have enough on scene to send in an attack line and a search crew, good for you.  That just isn’t always the case.

Just remember, if you are performing VES, know where you are, have a tool. You may only be able to sweep the room with a tool because of heat.  If you do get in a room, your first bit of business is to shut the door to the adjoining spaces. Oh, make sure you have got  a radio.

What do you think out there?  Any other ideas?  Let us know and share your knowledge.

As always, thanks for stopping by train everyday.

Photo by: http://www.eurekafirerescue.org/2010Pictures.html

Posted by dc802 on January 20, 2010 • Filed under: VES, enter, fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, fires, rescues, search, training-fire-rescue-topics, vent, ventilation • Tagged: , , , , , , ,

Fire in the Middle

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Which way to go? To the left, or to the right?
Which way to go? To the left, or to the right?

This is a fire in a breezeway on a single family home.  As you can see, the garage is on the right and the home is on the left.

We have doors from the breezeway to both the house and the garage.

Smoke is issuing from the attic vent on the house and windows are dark.  All occupants are out of the house.  Side C has a deck off of the kitchen that is about five feet off the ground.

The front door is locked, the family was called by neighbors and they are all together at the store.

This is a fairly simple fire, but some responses I got in a tactics class made me curious how it would go over here.

  • What size and where is your first line going?
  • Where will your second line go?
  • How will you ventilate and why?
  • What else do we need to consider, if anything?

Okay, I know this is not a real challenging scenario, but, the first line answers may be diverse.  They were in the tactics class I taught.

So, have fun, be creative and take it for what it is, just a scenario to practice.

Sometimes you need to practice the short shot too, not just the three-pointers.

Take care and thanks for visiting.

Posted by dc802 on January 18, 2010 • Filed under: command-leadership, fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, fires • Tagged: , , , ,

Frozen Firefighters

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Make sure you wear your hat and gloves!

Make sure you wear your hat and gloves!

With winter in full swing I thought I would post a pic that illustrates just how bad it can get.

I am sure some have been in worse, and if you have some pictures send them in and we’ll post them.

As you can see, things can get rough when it is really cold.  Nozzles freeze up, hoses get difficult to move around, pumps freeze, and surfaces get very slick.

Slick is an understatement for this picture.  Use extreme caution when operating on icey surfaces.  Especially elevated surfaces like roofs.  Maybe wear ladder belts when you normally wouldn’t.  Keep some webbing in your pocket, use it to secure yourself to the roof ladder or other fixed object.

Just be extra careful.  On the ground, keep some ice-melt or salt on the trucks to spread around.  You might have to call in public works to put down large quantities of salt if you are on a road or out for a long incident.

Bottom line, be careful.  Stay safe.

Posted by dc802 on January 18, 2010 • Filed under: fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, fires • Tagged: , , , , , ,

Lending a Hand?

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This is not good!
This is not good!

This is when getting out in the neighborhood really pays off.  Sure, someone could notify you about this, but it is so much better when you just stumble across something like this.

I don’t know how this was discovered, but some firefighters thought enough of it to snap some photos.

Getting around and looking at your response area is always a good thing. We have found hydrants out of service that we were not notified about, streets that were closed for repairs and new construction that nobody knew about.

This situation is dangerous without being on fire.  Notify your fire marshal, chief and dispatch center to get these two properties flagged.  It is obvious that the building on the left is in trouble. But, if we have to respond to the sturdy property on the right, the one on the left could still cause us problems.

Be aware and know your response area.  Be careful out there.

Posted by dc802 on January 13, 2010 • Filed under: buildling construction, command-leadership, fire codes, fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, inspections, training-development, training-fire-rescue-topics • Tagged: , , , , , , ,

Chief on Scene and In the Smoke

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Chief, where are you supposed to be?
Chief, where are you supposed to be?

 

Hey, Chief, get out of the way.  I applaud the effort and the fact that you want to go get it, but we need you back away so you can keep a watchful eye over your guys.

Every chief has had the urge to get a little smokey every now and then, but we need to know our responsibility.

First of all, this chief is also close to the IDLH, breathing that smoke is not good for you.  Although the fire is vented out the roof, we could still see a flash fire out the front door where the chief is standing.

Second, we need him commanding or doing the function he was assigned.  Nothing wrong with an aggressive chief, but remember your safety and tasks.

We all have been here, nobody is exempt. Remember, you set the example, so try to stay out of these situations.  Again, this is just a picture and this guy may have only been there for 10 seconds, but that might be all it takes.

Stay safe and be careful out there.  No offense chiefs, I have to include you in these posts too.

Posted by dc802 on January 12, 2010 • Filed under: administration-leadership, command-leadership, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, fires, training-development, training-fire-rescue-topics • Tagged: , , , , ,

The Plain Clothes Vent Man

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Now this is how you ventilate!

Now this is how you ventilate!

This is a bit extreme, don’t you think?  I just thought that with the past few days of posting roof ops and vent posts that this was appropriate.

I am sure that nobody reading this blog post would ever allow this to happen.  But, apparently, it does happen somewhere.

I don’t know if this is a volunteer that just showed up or the homeowner.

Does it really matter?

Anyway, I thought you might all enjoy this.

Stay safe and take care.

Posted by dc802 on January 11, 2010 • Filed under: command-leadership, fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, fires, trusses • Tagged: , , , ,

Trip to the Hardware Store

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How are we supposed to get out?!

How are we supposed to get out?!

Even if it wasn't blocked, this exit is locked with a padlock.

Even if it wasn't blocked, this exit is locked with a padlock.

While at the hardware store the other day, I noticed the condition of this means of egress door.

It is blocked with a display case. As you can see from the photo, the panic hardware is not accessible and can barely be seen.

A closer look shows that even if the exit was accessible and did not have the display case in front of it, it is locked.]

There is a slide bolt that is padlocked on the exit door.  So, even if it wasn’t blocked, you would  never get out.

A firefighter that might be lost and was following a wall looking for doors and windows could come across this door and still not be able to escape.

These are the things that we need to bring to the attention of the business owners.  Typically, once they understand why the door needs to be accessible and not bolted, they remedy the issue.

Be diligent and do inspections.  These issues could mean the difference in people getting out of a fire or emergency. It could also mean the difference in how a Mayday is resolved.

Stay safe and be careful out there.

Posted by dc802 on January 10, 2010 • Filed under: buildling construction, fire-prevention-education, firefighter-safety-health, inspections, training-development, training-fire-rescue-topics • Tagged: , , , , , , ,

Kitchen Table Tactics 1-10-10

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What building characteristics do you see right away?
What building characteristics do you see right away?

Sometimes you can tell a lot about a building before you every get inside of it.

Use this picture to identify some basic characteristics about this house as the first arriving company.

As the first arriving company officer, you have a great number of responsibilities. You decide the type of attack your going to use. The size line that will be deployed.  You decide where the line goes or where you start your search if victims are suspected.

All of these things plus some others are all decisions swimming inside that first officers head when pulling up to a working fire.

Let’s say you are that first arriving officer.  Ignore the firefighters in the photo and explain what you have, how you would proceed and why.

Some of the things I want to ask about specifically are:

  • Where are the stairs?
  • What kind of construction is this?
  • Based on the construction, what considerations are there for us tactically?
  • Where do you initiate your attack?
  • What is your first line off in regards to size?

Add additional comments, thoughts and ideas.  These little scenarios are for everyone to learn from one another and discuss with your crews.  Especially in this kind of weather, it is tough to get outside to train. So, here we can take a picture of a house fire, regardless of what is shown in the photo, make it our fire and share our tactical ideas.

Take care and stay safe.  Be careful and train hard.

Posted by dc802 on January 10, 2010 • Filed under: buildling construction, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, fires • Tagged: , , , , ,

More Roof Ops

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Is there anything we are forgetting here?
Is there anything we are forgetting here?

First, let me make it clear, I was looking for a picture I have of a crew working on the roof the correct way when I came across this one.

I know, we have beat the first Roof Ops post to death and if you don’t want to post on this one, I understand.  I just figured while we were on the topic I would throw this one out there while I had it.

I know that there is not a lot of smoke, and the pitch is shallow and it doesn’t look like a great deal is going on.  I know I am going to hear about how this is nit-picking and whatever.  But, this is how we get hurt and killed.

It’s when we let our guard down and get complacent that bad things happen.  How many times have read a line of duty death or injury report and asked, “what were they thinking?”

I will find the picture with the correct way to operate on a roof safely and post it to show I am not just showing the bad stuff.  It’s just so easy to find.

Anyway, stay safe and be careful.

Posted by dc802 on January 9, 2010 • Filed under: command-leadership, fire-rescue-topics, firefighter-safety-health, fires, trusses • Tagged: , , , , , , , ,

TIC–Some Food for Thought

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We wont always see the correct temperature from the TIC from the upper floor.

We wont always see the correct temperature from the TIC from the upper floor.

I posted a couple of pictures  a few days ago that showed a living room taped off.  The room looked normal and unaffected by whatever had gone on there.

There is a great deal of information about using thermal imaging cameras to locate fires in basements.  This is a good practice to get in when entering a house with a basement.

However, don’t be solely reliant on the readings you get from the camera.

Here is an excerpt from an article detailing some of the tests and uses where a  TIC could have or did make a difference. You can see the entire article here.

“It is interesting to see that the difference in the temperature reading of the TIC at the top assembly compared to the inferno below. In one test, after five minutes, the TIC temperature showed a comfortable 73 degrees on the floor level above the fire; meanwhile, the temperature below was 1,378 degrees. This was not because TIC was not working or reading inaccurate temperatures; but because the flooring and carpets do not transfer that temperature, so the TIC doesn’t see it.”

So, don’t be totally reliant on the TIC, it has it’s limitations. Situational awareness is paramount and a 360 is a must.  Train frequently with your respective camera and learn it’s abilities and limitations.

Stay safe and train hard.

Posted by dc802 on January 8, 2010 • Filed under: administration-leadership, buildling construction, command-leadership, firefighter-safety-health, firefighting-operations, fires, i joists • Tagged: , , , , , , ,

TV vs. Emergency Lights

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Let's put the TV here, we don't really need these anyway.

Let's put the TV here, we don't really need these anyway.

You may have to look hard and wide to find the emergency systems during your inspections.

This occupancy decided that the television was more important than the emergency lighting.

Things will get pushed in front of fire extinguishers, fire alarm pull stations and of course exits.  If the place is pretty junked up, take some extra time to find these items and ensure that they are freed from obstacles.

Be safe and stay warm out there, most of are freezing.

Posted by dc802 on January 8, 2010 • Filed under: buildling construction, fire-prevention-education, firefighter-safety-health, inspections • Tagged: , , , , ,