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TIC–Some Food for Thought

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We wont always see the correct temperature from the TIC from the upper floor.

We wont always see the correct temperature from the TIC from the upper floor.

I posted a couple of pictures  a few days ago that showed a living room taped off.  The room looked normal and unaffected by whatever had gone on there.

There is a great deal of information about using thermal imaging cameras to locate fires in basements.  This is a good practice to get in when entering a house with a basement.

However, don’t be solely reliant on the readings you get from the camera.

Here is an excerpt from an article detailing some of the tests and uses where a  TIC could have or did make a difference. You can see the entire article here.

“It is interesting to see that the difference in the temperature reading of the TIC at the top assembly compared to the inferno below. In one test, after five minutes, the TIC temperature showed a comfortable 73 degrees on the floor level above the fire; meanwhile, the temperature below was 1,378 degrees. This was not because TIC was not working or reading inaccurate temperatures; but because the flooring and carpets do not transfer that temperature, so the TIC doesn’t see it.”

So, don’t be totally reliant on the TIC, it has it’s limitations. Situational awareness is paramount and a 360 is a must.  Train frequently with your respective camera and learn it’s abilities and limitations.

Stay safe and train hard.

TV vs. Emergency Lights

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Let's put the TV here, we don't really need these anyway.

Let's put the TV here, we don't really need these anyway.

You may have to look hard and wide to find the emergency systems during your inspections.

This occupancy decided that the television was more important than the emergency lighting.

Things will get pushed in front of fire extinguishers, fire alarm pull stations and of course exits.  If the place is pretty junked up, take some extra time to find these items and ensure that they are freed from obstacles.

Be safe and stay warm out there, most of are freezing.

Green Roofs and Fire Operations

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How do you ventilate vertically? Or do you?
How do you ventilate vertically? Or do you?

Since we had so much interest in the last green roof post, I thought it would fun to see what kind of tactical considerations would come from this picture.

I believe this is a domestic house based solely from the American flag flying proudly. Not a sure thing, but likely.  This could be in any one of our jurisdictions and I can honestly say I have had no formal training about this issue.

How would you take on this house if you pulled up to it on a working fire with some fire and smoke showing? To make it more interesting, you have victims trapped in the upper floor, confirmed by occupants who escaped from the main level.

What to do, what to do?  Huge vent problem?

Let us know how you would react. If you have prior experience, please share.

Stay safe and train hard.

Things Aren’t Always What They Seem

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This living room looks like any other you might run across in any neighborhood...

This living room looks like any other you might run across in any neighborhood...

This living room looks like any other you might run across in any neighborhood. Other than the fact that it is taped off, probably to keep our dirty feet off the clean, lightly colored carpet.

After all, we need to keep our customers happy. We are no doubt protecting the living room from damage after, oh, maybe a kitchen fire, an electrical fire somewhere else in the house.

In fact, we might want to check the basement for the electric panel and other utilities. Let’s take a look.

Ooh, what the $%^#@? This is what happens when the engineered i-joists burn away.

Or is it??

Or is it??

You may never know what is below you based on the conditions on the main floor. Situational awareness is so important and doing your 360 degree size-up is a must.

You might not catch something from the front or even the side B and D. You have to get a look at the the rear of the building, especially on the new, extra large houses that are going up all over our country.

In addition, a thermal imaging camera will not always show you the difference in temperatures between the basement and the main level. There is some information about the TICs that I will try to post later. Stay safe and keep training.

Ice Rescue: Technician Required?

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It is the time of year when the weather gets especially cold and ice is forming on the lakes and ponds. It is also when many departments start actually getting out on and in the ice to train for ice related emergencies.

One of the departments that I am a part of and others around us do train on this topic. The question has been raised by many, some legitimately concerned and others just trying to stay out of the ice, if a person should be trained to technician level before he/she enters the water?

Ice rescue training being performed, is it required?

Ice rescue training being performed, is it required?

I personally am not a technician trained ice rescuer, although I have had a great deal of training for ice rescues. I do have technician level training in other areas and have to say that I learned a great deal in those courses, stuff that could keep you alive.

If I read the standard correct, any incident that requires special or technical training has different levels of certification and training. Most of these categories all abide by the awareness, operations and technician hierarchy.

With that in mind, the department and departments that I am familiar with will typically have a short in-service on the equipment and safety guidelines and then when the ice gets thick enough, we throw our own in the water to be victims and rescuers.

The practical answer to if we should be tech level certified before we enter the ice is that it is difficult and expensive at best to get our people all trained to that level. The ideal answer is “yes”, we should have our people properly trained before putting them in harms way. Where is the line crossed or should it be? Are these tech level certifications going to need to be mandatory for our firefighters, even if they are not interested in that subject matter? But, the subject matter is protecting our citizens and the job is dynamic and ever changing, right? What do all of you do and think?

Personally, I think there should be more than just an in-service and then throw people in the lake, tend to getting our personnel certified in the areas that we have risk for. But, we don’t make every member become HazMat Techs or Swiftwater Techs, so I don’t know that making them Ice Rescue Techs is appropriate either. It is a very interesting dilemma I do see the day where those certifications will be required for all academy graduates or at least at an operational level. Actually, the current graduates at the local academy does require hazmat ops for graduation. I think that this is going to be a hot topic in the years to come. Where do you all see this in our roles as emergency responders?

Inspecting Exits and Exit Aisles

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You can see the problem here, right?  This is a common problem in warehouses, mercantile stores and the “big box” stores, especially the large do-it-yourself stores.  We have to make sure that these lanes are not ‘permanently’ blocked.  The exception is if they are using the lift to move merchandise to or from high shelves, in that case, the aisle is temporarily blocked for the consumer’s protection.  We just need to make sure that the staff understands the importance of opening it up as soon as possible.  Keep safe out there and be diligent in doing these inspections.  Remember, they are as much for you, the firefighter, as much as the patron.

Company Training Discussion 2: Residential Fire with Exposure

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Here is another look at a residential house fire.  What challenges might we have with this fire and where would your first attack line go?  Where would you put your second line and what size?  How would your size-up be transmitted?  What type of contruction are you assuming?  Post you comments and I will post mine later. Have a safe and happy weekend.