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Company Discussion: Vacant Buildings Cont.

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I am back and will continue the discussion on vacant buildings.

First, I appoligize for not posting all weekend, I was at Missouri Winter Fire School teaching.  It was a great weekend and everyone was pleasant and eager to learn.

When I left, I had posted a picture and gave a scenario of a vacant building. Vacant buildings and how we approach them is a hot topic right now. We have some chiefs and firefighters arguing that we need to write-off all vacant buildings.

On the otherhand, we have firefighters and some officers that argue that we should search all buildings that are on fire because that was what we were sworn to do.  I understand both points.

While teaching this weekend this topic was brought up and the very vocal crowd, and the majority immediately said, “Let ‘em burn.”  Their setement was that we should not be entering these buildings because they are “vacant.”

I then asked the question, “Are all vacant buildings decrepit and delapidated?”  The answer is absolutely not.  Many vacant buildings are just that; not occupied.  It doesn’t mean that they are falling down and structurally unsound.

I pose this scenario.  If  a couple leaves their winter home for five months out of the year for warmer weather, is that building abandoned?  Most said , “no.”  Would the “let it burn” montra apply in that situation and why or why not?  Well, most said no it would not apply.

Listen, I am not sure why this is so difficult.  In a way I do because I understand the history of some very famous LODD that have happen in abandoned buildings.  But, at the same time, we are seeing and hearing reports of homeless and vagrants being rescued and found in these vacant buildings.

So, what do we do?  Here is what I am suggesting and you are free to disagree.  If we use the same risk management system and the risk vs. benefit anaylysis, this becomes less of an issue.  If your first arriving units are adequately trained, confident in their decision making abilities and familiar with their area, they perform like they would at any other building.

Just because a building is occupied does not make it inherently safe if it is on fire. The same is true for vacant buildings; just because it is vacant does not make inherently dangerous just because it is vacant.  It also doesn’t mean it isn’t occupied.

Do your size up, get three sides when you pull up.  Get your 360 and make an evaluation of conditions inside and those of the building.  If conditions are poor and survivability is not possible, don’t put your people at risk.

If the structure appears to be sound, the fire conditions are condusive for an aggressive search and attack, then it should be done.  The same rules apply for occupied structures.  You may take more risk for an occupied structure if you don’t konw that all occupants are out.  But, you still will measure conditions and survivability, especially if you have confirmation everyone is out.  Use the same judgment and experience with vacant buildings.

The bottom line is that properly trained firefighters and company officers will make the right decision.  IF they don’t, adequately trained and experienced chief officers need to make sure the correct decision is made and the proper battle plan is followed.

Use your head and don’t let your ego and emotions rule your actions. It could get you and your crew killed.  Take your time to call on good practices and experience to see the overall picture.

Until next time, stay safe and be careful.

Row Houses

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Multiple exposure fire.

Multiple exposure fire.

This is a great scenario for us to look at. It has a great deal that needs to be addressed.

Now, I understand that not every jurisdiction has this type of occupancy, but let’s use our imaginations.

We can gather  a pretty good deal of information just from the picture.

Now, let’s go to work.  I’m not going to ask specific questions of what you would do, you all have a pretty good idea of what we are looking for.  List your tactical considerations and how your going to use your crews.

Since it is Sunday, I am going to give you all the resources you need.

Get started and share you knowledge.

Stay safe and train hard.

Frozen Firefighters

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Make sure you wear your hat and gloves!

Make sure you wear your hat and gloves!

With winter in full swing I thought I would post a pic that illustrates just how bad it can get.

I am sure some have been in worse, and if you have some pictures send them in and we’ll post them.

As you can see, things can get rough when it is really cold.  Nozzles freeze up, hoses get difficult to move around, pumps freeze, and surfaces get very slick.

Slick is an understatement for this picture.  Use extreme caution when operating on icey surfaces.  Especially elevated surfaces like roofs.  Maybe wear ladder belts when you normally wouldn’t.  Keep some webbing in your pocket, use it to secure yourself to the roof ladder or other fixed object.

Just be extra careful.  On the ground, keep some ice-melt or salt on the trucks to spread around.  You might have to call in public works to put down large quantities of salt if you are on a road or out for a long incident.

Bottom line, be careful.  Stay safe.

How to Deploy

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How do you assign these firefighters?

How do you assign these firefighters?

Here is the scene. You are the officer in charge here and when you arrive this is what you see.

You have reports of possible victims in an early morning fire.

Now, this house is approximately 1600 square feet with a basement. Single story about 25-30 years old.

Based on your tactical priorities, start assigning these crews where it is most appropriate.  Explain where and why you sent your crews there.  Keep in mind you are a medium sized department that is a suburban island. Meaning that basically you have three trucks on the scene with this number of personnel.

Your next truck in is 10 minutes away.  You have public water supply.

The neighbor got up to go to work and noticed smoke coming from the house next door.  Exposure B and D are about 15 feet away on both sides.

What do you do?

2×4′s for Locks

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Great use of a 2x4!
Great use of a 2×4!

Someone thought its was a good idea to put a 2×4 in the door to keep it locked.

But, it will also do a good job of keeping people in during a fire.

If it is dark and people are panicked, that board could cause some big problems.

The board very easily could prohibit people from getting out in an emergency.  If you see this, look for other types of locks on this door too.  If they are willing to put a board in there, they have also tried other methods of locking people in.

Remove the board and explain why it is dangerous.  Be aware of these types of issues on inspection. It could make a huge difference.

Stay safe and take care.

Lending a Hand?

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This is not good!
This is not good!

This is when getting out in the neighborhood really pays off.  Sure, someone could notify you about this, but it is so much better when you just stumble across something like this.

I don’t know how this was discovered, but some firefighters thought enough of it to snap some photos.

Getting around and looking at your response area is always a good thing. We have found hydrants out of service that we were not notified about, streets that were closed for repairs and new construction that nobody knew about.

This situation is dangerous without being on fire.  Notify your fire marshal, chief and dispatch center to get these two properties flagged.  It is obvious that the building on the left is in trouble. But, if we have to respond to the sturdy property on the right, the one on the left could still cause us problems.

Be aware and know your response area.  Be careful out there.

More Roof Ops

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Is there anything we are forgetting here?
Is there anything we are forgetting here?

First, let me make it clear, I was looking for a picture I have of a crew working on the roof the correct way when I came across this one.

I know, we have beat the first Roof Ops post to death and if you don’t want to post on this one, I understand.  I just figured while we were on the topic I would throw this one out there while I had it.

I know that there is not a lot of smoke, and the pitch is shallow and it doesn’t look like a great deal is going on.  I know I am going to hear about how this is nit-picking and whatever.  But, this is how we get hurt and killed.

It’s when we let our guard down and get complacent that bad things happen.  How many times have read a line of duty death or injury report and asked, “what were they thinking?”

I will find the picture with the correct way to operate on a roof safely and post it to show I am not just showing the bad stuff.  It’s just so easy to find.

Anyway, stay safe and be careful.

Green Roofs and Fire Operations

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How do you ventilate vertically? Or do you?
How do you ventilate vertically? Or do you?

Since we had so much interest in the last green roof post, I thought it would fun to see what kind of tactical considerations would come from this picture.

I believe this is a domestic house based solely from the American flag flying proudly. Not a sure thing, but likely.  This could be in any one of our jurisdictions and I can honestly say I have had no formal training about this issue.

How would you take on this house if you pulled up to it on a working fire with some fire and smoke showing? To make it more interesting, you have victims trapped in the upper floor, confirmed by occupants who escaped from the main level.

What to do, what to do?  Huge vent problem?

Let us know how you would react. If you have prior experience, please share.

Stay safe and train hard.

Kitchen Table Tactics 01/01/10

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{013B1687-AD5E-4340-A76D-9145FE4438FE}It’s difficult to tell from the picture how many floors are on this building, but it is at least 3 or 4 above ground level.

We can make some assumptions about how this building is occupied; store fronts on ground level and residential tenant spaces above, maybe some storage immediately above the store fronts. This obviously creates some challenges for us and our operations.

Although you individually may not be able to make it around this building, you need to get units on every side looking for possible victims.

  • What are the life safety issues we have here and how will you address them?
  • Where and how do you implement your suppression operations?
  • What about venting the upper floors?
  • What other concerns do you have here?

Take some time to go over this and report back and share your discussions. Have a Happy and Safe New Year.

Kitchen Table Tactics

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  • house_fire_insurance_claimWhat have we got here?
  • What is you size up?
  • What is you first impression as you are driving up the drive about line placement and life safety considerations?
  • What is your first action when stepping out of the apparatus and why?
  • Are there any special tactical considerations that aren’t obvious?
  • Venting where and why?

Go over this with your crews and post all of the discussion points to share with everyone. This can turn into a great one hour training session, especially with the snow and ice all about. Stay safe and let us know what you come up with.

Safety, Safety, Safety!

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Is he wearing everything he should be?

Is he wearing everything he should be?

This should be obvious to most who look at this picture. We have a fully charged house fire and we are venting. There is no doubt that venting this structure is appropriate.

We have a vent guy on the stoop roof with what looks to be a good tool and I think I see an SCBA?

But, what have we been taught about pressurized structures full of heat and smoke? What about the plume exiting the window above the stoop? The vent guy should have a mask on.

I am sure firefighters all over this great country have done this a thousand times, but, that one time that the smoke flashes as it relieves itself, this guy is inhaling super-heated gases. It might be the day we have a LODD or career ending injury.

Chiefs and officers, make sure your people are wearing their PPE when in or near an IDLH. Let’s practice safety in every aspect of our jobs while still doing our jobs effectively. The best way to do this is to train every shift and learn our craft as best we can. Stay safe and be careful.

Fire Discussion 3

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Okay, here is your kitchen table Company Discussion for the day. Let’s take a look at what we have going on here. The two pictures say a great deal about this fire.

  • What do you do?
  • Where will your first line go?
  • Second line?
  • What are the smoke and fire conditions telling you?
  • Where is this fire?
  • Any hazards that you can see?
  • What it is the primary Life Safety area?

List your thoughts and what you would do and comment on others. This blog is not about right and wrong answers, just to encourage discussion. Stay safe and train like you mean it.

Inspecting Exits and Exit Aisles

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You can see the problem here, right?  This is a common problem in warehouses, mercantile stores and the “big box” stores, especially the large do-it-yourself stores.  We have to make sure that these lanes are not ‘permanently’ blocked.  The exception is if they are using the lift to move merchandise to or from high shelves, in that case, the aisle is temporarily blocked for the consumer’s protection.  We just need to make sure that the staff understands the importance of opening it up as soon as possible.  Keep safe out there and be diligent in doing these inspections.  Remember, they are as much for you, the firefighter, as much as the patron.

Company Training Discussion 2: Residential Fire with Exposure

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Here is another look at a residential house fire.  What challenges might we have with this fire and where would your first attack line go?  Where would you put your second line and what size?  How would your size-up be transmitted?  What type of contruction are you assuming?  Post you comments and I will post mine later. Have a safe and happy weekend.

Watered Tree Vs. Non-Watered Tree: Merry Christmas

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Keokuk, Iowa: Ten Years Ago Remembered

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keokuk Photos By Cindy Iutzi
It was ten years ago today that Keokuk, Iowa lost three of it’s own in a two-family residential fire. In addition to the LODD there were also three children that perished in the fire as well.  There is a great deal of information about this fire and the events that led to the LODD of three firefighters.  During and after the NFPA and NIOSH reports, the Keokuk Fire Department has been extremely transparent and willing to share their story so that other fire organizations will not have to deal with such a loss.  Click the two links and read the reports and share with your personnel what happen in Keokuk. We have a responsibility to take these tragic events and learn from them to ensure that an event like this doesn’t happen again.  Remember the Keokuk Fire Department and all of the families affected by this fire in your prayers and thoughts during this time and stay safe out there.

Ridge Cut

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Here is a good video showing a ridge cut for venting a roof vertically.  Don’t forget that on a real fire, you need to wear SCBA and it is still optimum to have a roof ladder to help to operate off. In addition, care must be made to ensure that the roof is stable enough to cut the ridge without total collpase of the roof.

This is typically used on steep pitched roofs that are difficult to vent off of the roof ladder. Be careful out there.

Wear Your PPE!

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We can see that there is a working fire at this building.  It is very likely a good choice to vertically ventilte this building. However, how a commanding officer could allow his people to put themselves in this situation is unacceptable.

There are at least two firefighters on this roof with smoke and fire below them and neither appears to be wearing an SCBA.  This is how we get ourselves killed.  As officers we have a responsibility to ensure that our people are safe and operate safe.  How many times have we heard a Captain say “I’ve done my job if everyone gets home after the shift.”?  Well, that is tough when you don’t make you crews wear their SCBA while venting a roof.

As for the firefighters, they should know better. We are taught early on in our training that you wear ALL of your PPE.  This is one of many reasons why Firefighters are their Own Worst Enemy.  Stay tuned for more and send your pictures or videos for similar events. For those on the East Coast, stay safe in the winter wonderland coming your way.  As alway, be aware of you situation and stay safe.

Ladder Placement

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This is a good working fire and I can see mutliple hose lines going into the structure. It is unfortunate that it is a fire that is ruining someone’s Christmas. With that being said, it is good to see some ladders on this structure since it appears there are crews upstairs.

To the left of the picture I can see a ladder on the porch and another one on the “D” side next to the third story window. Now, there are a couple things that I would like to point out. First, as a first arriving company officer, you have to take a walk around this building. Look for building characteristics, fire and smoke conditions and the possibility of victims hanging out rear windows on upper floors.

Second, look at the ladder on side “D”, could we have placed it in a better location? Not being there, I don’t know what there plans were, but the ladder may be better served for crews inside by being placed just below the sill of the top floor window. This would better allow crews to exit safely and quickly onto the ladder if conditions change and it will assist in the lowering of a victim if one is found.

Remember, if the ladder tip is too far into the window space, it takes up room that could be used by a firefighter to exit. Keep that tip below the sill giving all of the window space to the crews inside.  Stay safe and train hard.

LODD FDNY 1998 On This Day

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On this day, December 18, 1998, 3 FDNY Firefighters  were killed in the Line of Duty at a high rise fire. Lt. Joseph Cavalieri, FF Chris Bopp and FF Jimmy Bohan died on the 10th floor of a labeled ”fireproof” multiple dwelling whose sprinklers had been shut off.

The three firefighters from L170 arrived and had the assignment of searching the fire floor and ascended 10 flights of stairs to rescue the resident in apartment 10-D, who was reported trapped. She escaped previously, but that was not known at the time. When the occupant left she left the apartment door open allowing air to feed the fire.  Although the building and hallways were equipped with sprinklers, they were functional and the fire spread rapidly.  It is believed that a change in wind direction created a wind of approximately 29MPH into the fire apartment and blew a superheated fireball into the hallway, taking the lives of the three FDNY firefighters.

For those of you that have not seen the NIST video on wind driven fires, take some time to watch it. Here is a link to find out more information on the tests done with Chicago FD and FDNY on wind driven fires.

http://www.fire.gov/WDF/index.htm

Combustible Liquids

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This is a repair shop that is not sprinklered, it was built prior to the code, and that also does fabricating.  They have added on without permits for several years and now is a dangerous place to be.  They have taken some measures to meet the inspection requirements, but, as you can see, there are still a number of hazards present.

These drums contain parts cleaners, oil and automotive fluids.  It is required to meet code requirements for quantities of flammable and combustible liquids and how they are stored. In addition, with the fabricating they use welders that can obviously cause an ignition of vapors.  Ensure that “hot” operations are an appropriate distance from the storage and use of flammable and combustible liquids.  Stay safe and be careful.

Engineered I-Joists: Be Aware of Your Buildings

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Some of you may have seen this video, but is worth looking at again and showing it to your firefighters, officers and building officials.  Take time to look at your subdivisions and know the dangers. Stay safe.

Nice Jeans

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This picture was labeled as “safety-fire-training”, no kidding.  This appears to be some sort of flammable liquids fire training by the looks of the props and their technique.

As we can see, they are wearing standard jeans and long sleeve t-shirt for personal protection along with adjustible sports hat for head protection.  It is difficult to tell, but there might be leather boots for foot protection.

I’m not exactly sure what they were thinking or let this happen, but it looks like some folks just begging for trip to the burn unit. Please, if you see someone doing this, stop them and explain what they are doing and the risks with how they are training.

This is where those who have the knowledge and expertise need to get out and help these places to TRAIN RIGHT, not just train.  Stay safe and make a difference.

Hanging by a Thread

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Okay, its not really a thread, but it may as well be. These truss systems are popular for overhangs and porches on commercial and residential buildings.  Typically, the top end will sit on a nailed 2×4 or rest on the top of the wall and toenailed into the joist for I-joist.

These are very danagerous and will fail easily under fire conditions.  Always take a look above you before you enter the building of any type.

On another note about these overhangs, canopies and porches; when using search lines, make sure you tie off outside the building which inlcudes these overhangs, canopies and porches. Get outside of these areas and into an open area free from any building components.  As always, stay safe and be careful.

How Many Does It Take?

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Now I don’t know exactlly what is going on here, but just from the photo I would guess that they are pushing the limits of this porch.  It appears that the building is of an advanced age the possibility of some rotten members are good.

Since there are firefighters on this roof and the brick is black, I am guessing that the building had a fire in it.  Some have tanks on, som don’t, but it looks like the major body of fire is knocked down. Back to the porch, does anyone else have an issue with this?  I wasn’t there, but we need to consider these things. You can see another firefighter on ground, below the porch and what might be a police officer actually under the porch canopy.  We have had porches collapse at fires and seriosly injure firefighters and we have had overhangs kill our people.

Do we need all of those people on that porch, and if we do, we should probably not have anyone under it.  Just be aware of your surroundings.  We all have a role in scene safety and should be empowered to point these issues out to keep everyone safe.  Stay safe and train hard.