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		<title>Balloon Frame Construction: From the Inside</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>This short clip show balloon frame construction from the inside. With <a href="http://www.enginehousetraining.com">Engine House Training, LLC</a> this summer, we had the opportunity to hold a class in this building. It was going to be torn down and the interior wall coverings in most of the house had been removed. That exposed the balloon frame construction characteristics that we so often speak of but seldom have the chance to see.</p>
<p>Use this however you like and share it. &nbsp;Hopefully, this will help someone to better understand the meaning of balloon frame buildings and to ensure proper tactics are used with these structures.</p>
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		<title>Reading the Building: Just a Glimpse</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>As you may know, I am playing with a different format. It wont be all of the time for every blog, but something a little different. So, here is one based off an <a href="http://www.firerescue1.com/Firefighter-Training/articles/992695-Read-the-building/">article</a> that I did.  Please be patient as I work with this. Hopefully, it will enrich your blog reading. </p>
<p>Thanks, and let me know what you think.</p>
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		<title>Ordinary Buildings and Considerations</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#62;Looking at these pictures shows us a building of ordinary construction. &#160;These are usually older buildings and the building [...]]]></description>
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<p>Looking at these pictures shows us a building of ordinary construction. &nbsp;These are usually older buildings and the building we see is typical of many downtown areas. &nbsp;This particular building has storefronts on the main level with multi-family units above.</p>
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<p>What are the main characteristics of ordinary construction and how do they relate to fire operations?</p>
<p>What are some problems we face with this type of building in many downtown areas that will cause us concern?</p>
<p>What are the challenges with apparatus placment, not just with this buildling, but with many small, downtown buildings?</p>
<p>What are our challenges in regards to exposures and how do we address them?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>These are just a few issues we face with this type of building. It is important to be prepared for a fire in this type of occupancy. &nbsp;It will be challenging, especially late at night when that upstairs is occupied and as you can see, access is not necessarily fast.</p>
<p>Share your thoughts and experiences and as always, train hard and thanks for reading.</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>Basic Tactical Considerations</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>This post is just a simple challenge of tactical considerations. &nbsp;The photos that are posted show a single-family house that had fire venting from the C/D corner when first units arrived. &nbsp;The first in crews could not make the entire hallway on the first push do to intense heat and smoke.</p>

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<p>The smoke was banked almost to the floor even with the fire venting from that corner bedroom.</p>
<p>What are some considerations that must be looked at with this fire? &nbsp;What would be your next plan of action? &nbsp;Why ist there so much heat and smoke with the fire venting the exterior? &nbsp;What is your size up?</p>
<p>Share your thoughts and answers with everyone and use this as discussion with your crew. &nbsp;</p>
<p>As always, train hard and stay safe,</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>Size Up Drill</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>There is a lot of talk about the different kinds of size up in regards to survivability profiling.  Although I respect those views, I just don&#8217;t think we are doing ourselves in the fire service justice by creating an additional &#8220;method&#8221; for performing your size up.</p>
<p>I still believe that a size up is a size up and the information you gather during it, along with experience, training and knowledge, will direct you into the right direction.  If the building is tenable or not; if it has burned before; if it is in poor condition; it doesn&#8217;t change how you size up. What changes is how you use the information.</p>
<p>That is if you have trained properly.  Let&#8217;s face it, not all company and chief officers are adequately trained in giving a thorough size up and applying that information into your strategy and tactics.</p>
<p>So, here is a little drill that is simple but yet effective.  I am going to give you four sides of a single-family dwelling and you need to size it up.</p>
<p>In addition, what can you tell about the layout of the house just by looking from the outside?  What are the indicators or clues that you are using to make these educated guesses?</p>

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<p>Share your experience and techniques, new officers and firefighters need this  stuff, so be generous.</p>
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		<title>Whole New Meaning to Modular</title>
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<p>I recently received an email with some pictures attached to it. The pictures were taken by Victor Dane, a firefighter in St. Louis County.  He took these pictures not far from where he works and has been kind enough to share.</p>
<p><a href="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/09/DSC_7091-300x200.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1488" title="DSC_7091" src="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/09/DSC_7091-300x200.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>As you can see, these are shipping/storage containers that are being stacked and pushed together to create a building.  Here is what Victor says about the containers and what they are being used for:</p>
<p><em>There was a Night Club called City Slickers.  It burned down and the owner wanted a building that would be fire proof and bullet proof.  These are whole cargo shipping containers.  There will be some rooms in these containers I was told. The builder told me building with these containers is very common in the South.  I need to get updated photos now.  The building now has siding all over it.  You can not tell it is a metal building.  I hope the local FD remembers this if it burns again.  The walls will be very difficult to breech.</em></p>
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<p>As soon as I get updated photos I will pass them along.  We need to remember that with the economy and other factors, contractors and builders will cut corners however necessary to save a buck.  We need to also remember why it is so important to get out and know our area.</p>
<p>I post the importance of this frequently, but I just don&#8217;t think you can emphasize it enough.  You must know what is going on in your jurisdiction.</p>
<p>Make it interesting and stop at a building and put up your ladder just for practice. Sit and consider the obstacles or water supply issues with a certain area or complex.  Just get out and do it.</p>
<p><a href="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/09/DSC_7092-300x200.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1490" title="DSC_7092" src="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/09/DSC_7092-300x200.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a>In addition to the fact that these may be being built with no code enforcement, what other tactical issues can you identify with this situation?</p>
<p>What will happen to the heat in this make shift building?</p>
<p>How will ventilation happen with the over roof?</p>
<p>There are a number of issues that must be identified and put into tactical considerations.  List your concerns and tactics for this building.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/07/Florissant-Fire-Pics-0331-300x225.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1388" title="Florissant Fire Pics 033" src="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/07/Florissant-Fire-Pics-0331-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I am a big fan of companies getting out and scoping out their response area. Just when you think you have seen it all, something catches your eye that you missed the other 100 times you passed it by.  We all know what I am talking about.</p>
<p>Look at the picture above. As a fire service leader, what do you see?  What have you learned from your years of experience and training about these types of buildings?</p>
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<p>What is of significance that you see right away but the new guy might not have a clue about?</p>
<p>As an officer that will be making the initial decisions on this building you have a great responsibility to know as much about this structure as you can.  It will certainly help you to make the best possible decision about your tactics.</p>
<p>Take the time to sit with your crews and look at the features of this building. What type of construction is it?  What type of occupancy is it?  Why are both so important?  It just might mean the difference of saving the occupants and yourself.</p>
<p>Stay safe and be careful.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>This was a fire I was on one night over ten years ago.  It was a great learning fire and the tactics had to be changed for a successful stop.</p>
<p>I can tell you that a great deal went right this night and there were things that happened away from the fire that paid huge dividends.</p>
<p>If you are the first arriving unit and officer, explain where your going and what your doing.  I&#8217;ll give you a little information to help you along.</p>
<p>-This is in a rural area, no hydrants.</p>
<p>-The house is old. Old newspaper and straw were found in the walls during overhaul.</p>
<p>-We had plenty of manpower.</p>
<p>-On side B there is a door that leads to the kitchen and the stairs go up from the kitchen on that side, just so you know.</p>
<p>I would like to see a great deal of feedback on this one.  Please let me know what operations would be going on away from the fire.  After I get enough comments, I will post what we did and why it worked.</p>
<p>As always, thanks for your continued support and use this however you want for your training purposes.</p>
<p>Stay safe and be careful out there.</p>
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<p>With the fire service and others taking this day and weekend to remember the Charleston 9, along with other high profile LODD, I wanted to do something different. I wanted to look at how we can specifically apply the recommendations that were listed in the report on the Charleston Super Sofa Fire.</p>
<p>I am going to do this just one at a time and I will likely take several weeks to cover them all.  It is very likely that some will intermingle with others, and will be covered together.</p>
<p>Today I want to look at pre-incident planning.  For me, this starts with when the building is being built.   In reality, it is a combination of both, during construction and visits and regular intervals.</p>
<p><em>conduct pre-incident planning inspections of buildings within their jurisdictions to facilitate development of safe fireground strategies and tactics</em></p>
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<div id="attachment_1230" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/06/PIC-0026-300x225.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1230" title="PIC-0026" src="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/06/PIC-0026-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Light weight, engineered floor joists.</p></div>
<p>Today, we stopped in on a new restaurant.  As you can see from the photo it is all light weight, engineered construction.</p>
<p>The comment was made that we need not enter this building if it burns.  Well, in an ideal world that is correct.</p>
<p>The fact is is that we just don&#8217;t know what we will be tasked with doing if this building catches fire.  We can&#8217;t predict what time of day or who will or will not be in it.  What we can do, however, is know what this building is made of and the hazards associated with those materials and products of construction.</p>
<p>We also must be prudent in our tactics when arriving, like lifting ceiling tiles before we get too far in the building, looking for fire running above us.</p>
<p>This visit provided some great information aside from the type of construction and those hazards associated with them.  First, the building is completely sprinklered.  That is a plus.  We located the FDC and the nearest hydrant.  Both good things.</p>
<div id="attachment_1231" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/06/PIC-0027-300x225.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1231" title="PIC-0027" src="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/06/PIC-0027-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Concealed spaces over the booths.  </p></div>
<p>We found that this concealed space had sprinklers dropped down to the ceiling level, but none were in the space or immediately above it.  An easy place for fire to spread quickly.</p>
<p>As we discussed earlier in the post, most would say we don&#8217;t need to enter this building.  In theory I agree, but we never know what we are facing when we arrive.</p>
<p>Something that we learned was that there is an area on the east side of this building, Side D, that is built with dimensional lumber and is sprinklered as well. The roof construction is not truss and the walls are all dimensional studs.  What can we take away from this?</p>
<div id="attachment_1232" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/06/PIC-0028-300x225.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1232" title="PIC-0028" src="http://firefightersenemy.com/files/2010/06/PIC-0028-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Side D construction was different than the rest of the building.</p></div>
<p>We discussed that if there needed to be an attempt to make entry, it would be best to try to take a stand from this area. It is not part of the rest of the roof system and will likely hold up a little longer with the dimensional lumber.</p>
<p>Another idea was that RIT would be staged near this entrance if there would happen to be interior crews making a rescue or knocking down what was perceived as a small fire.  They know that there is a straight shot to the middle of the building through a more secure type of construction.</p>
<p>With all that being said, accessibility to the building needs to be looked at; where will multiple units be staged?  Where will you place ladders and are there overhead dangers?</p>
<p>It is important to look at all of these factors to make a good decision based on prior knowledge.  We also understand that Plan A doesn&#8217;t always work so have a Plan B ready based on the planning you did on the building.</p>
<p>There are many other components about pre-incident planning that I didn&#8217;t mention, but hopefully you get the point.  Get out and visit these sites.  Be involved and have discussions about how you would perform at a fire here.</p>
<p>Above all, don&#8217;t let the lives lost at any LODD be lives lost in vain.  Learn from their mistakes, but don&#8217;t be critical, we have all screwed up and been lucky enough to get away with it.  Be constructive and train on the recommendations so that you don&#8217;t repeat history.</p>
<p>Stay safe and please, never forget those lost in the line of duty.  We owe them our promise to train hard and to learn from them.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">This is an incident that could turn out to be very interesting.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This is going to address the use of back up lines and when they are deployed.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I had an interesting conversation about assignments, as you could tell from the previous post.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">This discussion circled around the deployment of the second apparatus on the scene.  This is not a metro response where engines do engine work and so on.  Rather, this is where the second in unit is assigned upon arrival.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">With this picture in mind, what does your second in unit do?  Does it backup the first in crew with a hand line?  Does it perform ventilation?  Just where do you order this second in crew and what are the tactical priorities?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I believe that there is a time and situation for using the second in unit for a back up line, but not automatically just because they are the second unit there.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What do you think and why? You gave some great insight into run procedures, so I know there will be some great conversation on this one.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Stay low and be safe.</p>
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